ceiling, and i'm worried about the debt ceiling 'cause i think the president's going to use the 14th amendment and we're going to end up in lawsuits for the next ten years. and so, i don't like the debt ceiling by itself as a point of strength. the strength was, let everybody pay-- let all of his supporters start paying more tax and em come to you and he will make-- that's called deal making 101, basic deal making. somebody said do they know how to make deals? i said it's not about deals, it's about common sense. >> sean: your book "the art of the deal" it says you should be willing to wake away from any deal at the last moment. weren't they afraid they'd go over the cliff and be blamed. they were blamed anyway, but wasn't that feared. >> no getting blame anyway, they have the lowest rating in the history of ratings, okay, like the lowest rating anybody's ever seen. and i heard that they were afraid of bad publicity. their publicity is horrible anyway and in two weeks everybody's going to forget about-- look at me, bad publicity, good, so much publicity is comes out of my ears. some